Tamoose53
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If you're speaking of the Naval Base Nanette, it's actually in Great Lakes Ill, just north of Chicago. :)My daughter will be going there in about 10 months :( |
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NanetteB
Registered: 08/10/09
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Thanks for the confirmation Tamoose,
This leaves a possibility for JT to have been there!
I am finishing off the clip art on the Lipstick killer and it should be up for everyone's thoughts on the http://www.photobucket.com/BlackDahliaComparison here shortly!!!
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catseye
Registered: 04/22/09
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NanetteB, can it be that Mr. Heiren could be freed all these years later? I did a quick jaunt 'round the net to get a feel about what people over the years have believed about Heiren. It has been said that the evidence was never there to support him being this killer, that he was given sodium penathol/truth serum with a spinal tap and the procedure was done without anything to numb the area, he then confesses to whatever they wanted him to say, then collapses? Handwriting didn't match. He passed a lie detector test. Despite this, he pleaded guilty. Whatever! I'm just repeating what I saw on a 2007 website (Crimes, Guns and Videotape). So, if the handwriting is matched to JT, he goes free? I understand that many people just don't see how Mr. Heiren was the LK yet the Illinois Justice System has not budged on their stance regarding Herein, for decades.
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NanetteB
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Well lets see if we can get Illinois to pay attention to us!!!
I am going to post the preview clip art from the JT/LK exam.....
Very tired and have 3 classes of homework to catch up on, so I will put my finished exam up somethime this weekend, or sooner if I get done earlier. :)
Let's get Heirens out of prison is all I can scream!!!!
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NanetteB
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thewraith
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i am no expert by no mean's.but remeber the roll of film with the guy standind there with a butcher's knife.behind the breast hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.i think natt is really on to something here.that would defentialy fit the profile. |
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catseye
Registered: 04/22/09
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What I am lovin' here is watching the unfolding of linking Zodiac to JT and LK and BD using the old tricks done by others who had already linked BD to Z to sell their suspect. OOPS and I forgot Texas Phantom! It's great to see this happen! If people before us insist on linking Zodiac to the other crimes, well, yep, let's go and finish the job using their tools! Amazing! I feel like NanetteB is a type of Robin Hood, stealing their ways for the right purpose. I am not all that familiar with LK, BD but I can see the logic, the handwriting matching, too. I have a slight understanding about the Texas Phantom and laundry laid out as an MO before this site came to be. And, yes, I think they need to free Heirens.
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NanetteB
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We are working on the photos...... They need to be cleared up for clarity, so we may identify anyone on them.
OK, I fibbed! Just a lil! I already started the comparison, and have made it to the "M's", gotta run to the courthouse to examine an original, and will finish it when I return for everyones viewing pleasure. :)
I find the most interesting the choice of odd usage in letters that is found in 3 different murder investigations, this could only mean one thing!!!
If handwriting can be identified 1 in 8,000,000, let's narrow our playing field to serial killers. that would mean what 1 in 10 people????? I'm just guessing here becuase I don't know overall how many America has had, but once your narrow it to that number it would be astronomical for the writing to carry the same habitual uniqnuess between 10 or so people. Basically I don't see how it could ever happen.
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID FROM THE BEGINNING THAT JT'S SMOKING GUN WAS HIS LETTER "N", AND SO IT SEEMS RIGHT DOWN TO THE LK KILLINGS THIS LETTER "N" STILL HAUNTS HIM!!!!!!!!
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Sloth
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every year in the U.S it is believed that there are around 20 serial killers operating(due to patterns occuring regionally). There have been so many serial killers in this country since the late 1800's. You may have stumbled on to a killer that has been responsible for more than one series of killings, but the truth of the matter is that no one has actually proven JT to be 1 killer as of yet. I believe him to be Z, but in all likelihood it is a very smal chace that he was involved in all of these cases. He is probably more responsible for murders that no oe has ever linked together, the handwriting is intruiging...I hope you can match it to LK and set free a man who has been unjustifiably rotting away in jail for 60 years |
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NanetteB
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Well even if the number was 200, some may have some similarities but, I don't think certain things that JT writes anyone would carry, let alone another individual within a group of 200.
How do you mean more complex Sloth?
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Sloth
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well the numbers are confusing because of the way that these individuals move from place to place...one day you can have a guy in this area doing his thing and then be gone doing it somewhere else...then a killer similar in nature moves in to the area and begins committing crimes...they may not be exactly the same, but resemble earlier killings....then focus goes to one person as the other roams free. I know it sounds unlikley but look at the case of the California Highway Killers. Now i hope you have something here with the LK and JT...but all I am saying that it is extremely difficult to link an individual to 1 set of killings let alone 2...because of the way these people are caught(psychological flaws that they cannot overcome) |
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NanetteB
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NanetteB
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Everyone to date has had nothing but theories, and I bring to the table, real logic and science, and people still wonder. This tells me the experience of the board with handwriting.
THERE WOULD NEVER BE NEAR THE COMPLETE MATCHES IN SLANT AND FORMATION YOU GUYS IF IT WASN'T HIM!!!
I DARE ANYONE OF YOU TO SEND ME YOUR HANDWRITING, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY YOU AREN'T THE ZODIAC, BD, OR LK.........
I have seen in my writing why I could never be, but if you would like to know why you would be ruled out as well then take the challenge!!!
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Sloth
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handwriting analysis has been very important in many cases, such as the Zodiac, but also has not been brought up at all in many serial killer cases....handwriting may be a great science, which i do not know alot about, but that doesn't mean that it is the only thing investigators are looking at now a days..it just happens to be the only evidence in the Zodiac case, but that doesn't mean it would be extremely useful in other cases, where would we be right now if the Zodiac never wrote any letters....we would still be as much in the dark as they were back when this shit all started...usually it is necessary for a collective use of different scientific tools to be able to bring these deviants to justice...they are like cockroaches that know how to slip through the cracks |
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Sloth
Registered: 01/01/09
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Nanette, have you compared the writing on the wall with the ransom note left at the Degnan's house. Some wonder if those murders were committed by the same individual..and I remember reading somewhere that the writing was matched, but there was some doubt because some gang kids say they killed her and left the ransom note. Still in the Lipstick case, Degnan might not have been a victim of that killer, but the Black Dahlia... |
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