NanetteB
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This is what I have come up with, and in my mind suggests that we take a deeper look into the Lipstick Killings.
1. 2nd victim was a member of the US Navy when all came home from war.
2. Spelling errors are consistent with Zodiac "waite".
3. Lower case "n" as found in the Channel Nine letter.
4. Backwards letter "t" in the wall writings. (We know Z loved backwards writing)
5. Capital A used in lower case writing (we can see that JT has always gone to great lengths to hide his special "a".
6. Statement by LK, " cannot control myself". (Zodiac plea for help)
8. Lower case cursive "m" has individual characteristic that are similar to JT's lower case cursive "m".
7. MO is similar to BD, bisected. (Look at the BD writing and judge for yourself)
8. Butcher Knife suspected choice of weapon for LK and BD.
9. JT says he had visited 28 states by the time he was 16. (My question is with who?)
10. JT also states that most of the mean things he had done were done before he left in the military the first time, and before he married his first wife!
Does anyone know when he married his first wife? I don't know if he means the one here in the US or the Japanese bride he took during his very short stint in WWII.
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not to argue with you, but the MO's of the two killers are really not that similar....Zodiac came out of nowhere and attacked and left the victims to die...The Black Dahlia/Lipstick killer took his victim(s) away..did what he did then left their bodies in places they would be found...the only similarity is that the bodies were left in public places...the Degnan body I believe was found in some sort of drain system. The other 2 Lipstick killings were in there own homes...Zodiac never entered the home of his victims!!
IMO this seems to hurt the case of the Zodiac also being responsible for these strings of murder..I have no comment on the writing analysis as I have no experience in that aspect..I believe that you would have more success trying to link the Zodiac to the Texarkana Murders |
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Sloth
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sorry if you meant that the Lipstick MO is similar to Black Dahlia because it is....IMO the killers are the same person. The BD victim being left on the street with the same name as the little girl victim from 1946 a year earlier lends people to believe it was the killer sending the message out that he was responsible for both strings of murder |
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To answer your question: No evidence suggests this right now. Shouldnt efforts be put into JT as Z instead of all this other stuff?
If true, we are talking about the most prolific killer (and if true I dont think you can call him a serial killer anymore)of all time.
Sloth, about MO's from your other post. Z's murders also had sadistic sexual enclaves...much as it is with all serial killers, murders, or whatever. Just that fact that young couples while together on lovers lanes were killed is a sadistic sexual (fantasy?) profile. |
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NanetteB
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My comment on similar MO's was between BD and LK only. But thanks for pointing that out!
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NanetteB
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Texarcana Murders are going to be a challenge. To my knowledge there were no communications from this individual!
Investigating other murders can't affect the Zodiac case because that part is done.....
The Zodiac case however, raises all kinds of new theories in regards to old cases because of who JT was!!!
I am happy to be wrong as much as I am happy to be right. I do not have a personal vendetta against JT. I simply see writings that are associated with old murders, and they match what I have been working on. I don't try to make anything more than what it is, and after we run the timeline on JT, I will be more sure of where he was, and what kind of trouble he may have gotten himself into. If it turns out that there is no way JT could have been there during those murders then that is the facts, but if not then I will proceed with the exam on the LK murders.
I see similarities, nothing more as of yet. I have not been able to complete an exam due to the lack of quality in the writing found on the internet. I am making requests for these writings. Meanwhile, Dennis and I will go over the timeline of JT. :)
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NanetteB
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LK update!
I am in contact with a law advocate of Heiren. She has supported his innocence for over 23 years. She is going to send me the photographs of the LK writings. She has already had a document examiner conclude that the writings were not from Heiren. Due to the amount of paperwork on this case she hopes to be back with me by this weekend! Stay tuned!!!
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NanetteB, I am reading and waiting for any more tie-ins with other old cases. It isn't logical that someone like Jack would just wake up one day a killer and then just stop. It then makes that part of his way of life just "a middle". In other words, he had a beginning, a middle and an end. So, I am seeing the logic that Zodiac was part of a section of his life. If he's BD, LK, Texas Phantom, then Zodiac, then ???, well that places Zodiac actually past the middle, IMO.
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Give me ten minutes, and all will see the most amazing connection in writing ever!
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NanetteB
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OK, this is what we are looking at tonight ladies and gentlemen!
In the writing I just posted as JT's comparison letter to the lipstick murders.
I have pointed out the lines where the letters can be found.
In the "For Heavens Sake" writing on the wall you will find a 3 hump cursive "m" in the middle of printing. The first leg of this "m" is started above the baseline making it look like a flourish rather than a necessary leg of the "m". The first leg is shorter than the other 3. This is consistent with JT's cursive "m's". See the comparison document, I have underlined these "m's".
Then in the "Please Get Me" letter I will draw your attention to the letter "t" in "Get". Compare this to the letter "t" in the word "swift" of JT on line 22 of the comparison cursive writing I placed on photobucket........
Can I get an Amen!!!!
I think we might free a falsely convicted man! :) :) :) :)
For the newcomers: http://www.photobucket.com/BlackDahliaComparison
this is where you will find the comparisons.
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NanetteB
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Also, let me add that the only naval bootcamp that exists today is in Great Lakes Michigan! There use to be camps in San Diego, and Florida, but that was during the boom of more recent wars.... It is back down to Great Lakes, MI again, and if the only bootcamp in the 40's was Great Lakes then this may be where JT came into contact with Chicago.............
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NanetteB
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Quote: Originally Posted by thewraith
OMFG!!!!!!!!!
Is that a "good" OMFG, or is that a "bad" OMFG?
You can never tell how to take acronyms! LOL
I hope it is good!
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NanetteB
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Quote: Originally Posted by catseye
NanetteB, I am reading and waiting for any more tie-ins with other old cases. It isn't logical that someone like Jack would just wake up one day a killer and then just stop. It then makes that part of his way of life just "a middle". In other words, he had a beginning, a middle and an end. So, I am seeing the logic that Zodiac was part of a section of his life. If he's BD, LK, Texas Phantom, then Zodiac, then ???, well that places Zodiac actually past the middle, IMO.
I think you are more right than we probably know catseye!!!!
Zodiac truly was just before the end, and the MO of going into peoples houses I believe is something JT has done for years....
Probably started this way then the thrill of doing it in public was more fulfilling to him. It supports his ego!!!
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