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    09/27/09 at 11:40 AM
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Don't apologize, it was worth a look Catseye... I just don't think we are going to find anywhere that JT was ever a suspect! :)


NanetteB, do you think it might be appropriate for this thread to repost the now scrunched up looking redacted page that's at KKASES Photobucket? I couldn't delete it, so, I swirled/pinched it with the techniques they offer at the site and it actually looks like something wadded up and thrown into the toilet! Sort-of a unexpected, sarcastic comment, in art form, of what we all should think of attempts at decieving the public for financial profit.

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    09/27/09 at 01:26 PM
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I spoke to Dennis last night on the suspect lists from LE, and we both agreed that had JT ever been interviewed by LE in regards to any of the murders we would have heard about. JT's ego would not let that one die.... To think he was interviewed and still got away with it, oh buddy those are some braggin rights. Dennis feels very sure that he has never been a suspect previous to Dennis' discoveries. So, probably no need to post any of the FBI files. Just wasted space at this point. Besides it's the FBI that is assisting Dennis... I'm sure if there was some link they would have these files themselves.
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    09/28/09 at 12:21 AM
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Nanette I'm confused! So what exactly are you saying here?!
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    09/28/09 at 01:03 AM
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I am saying that you will not find any LE files on an interview conducted with JT about the murders in question!
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    09/28/09 at 10:58 AM
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Oh, MY? I should be keeping better notes on Jack but I just saw the 1945 San Diego Naval photo and I could swear that somewhere on the net, I heard that "Zodiac" or Jack was in the Navy just before WWII ended. Is info on the site here before the Naval pic, already? So much reading done so far but without aggressive note taking. As far as the now removed, unconfirmed redacted page, well, IMO, it currently really does look like a wadded up piece of paper floating in a toilet bowl at KKASES photobucket due to the special effects applied. Perfect visual comment of what I think about FOIA 1974 onward FBI redacted files! Although, it did have a mention of someone stationed somewhere and on sick leave in 1945. OK, enough of that! I plan on largely watching the BD issues...unfamiliar territory to me.
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    09/28/09 at 12:32 PM
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I believe the sick leave indicated most of 1945, and JT was present for the picture in July 1945. So, probably not the same person!

As far as the WWII part of your message, I believe there was a theory posted somewhere in regards to that?

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    09/28/09 at 01:25 PM
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The evidence NB (and others) presented is intriguing. MO is different. Z did change appearances and MO (at least thats what he said) to keep you guessing.

Didnt a government report just come out stating that all this "CSI" type evidence, besides DNA (ie bloodspatter analysis, handwriting analysis, etc.) is bunk, as in not scientifically tested and not necessarily pertinent in court? Not trying to start anything here, I was just curious. Thought I heard that somewhere.
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    09/28/09 at 02:01 PM
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Profiler,

I haven't heard anything that would de-bunk these methods of science, but if it exists I would be one of the first who would like to read it! :)

Actually, the American Society for Testing and Materials has developed guidelines for handwriting. This would indicate that it is an accepted science.

I am interested in the outcome of a case, and what weight that handwriting has held in criminal cases. This is one of my next research issues. I have heard that handwriting has helped to convict criminals. I just want to see if that was the only forensic evidence used, or if it was in combination with other forensic evidence!

Definitely food for thought! :)

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    09/28/09 at 02:37 PM
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All I could find on it for the time being

http://www.scpr.org/news/2009/09/09/congress-weighs-forensics-study/
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    09/28/09 at 03:12 PM
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Thanks Profiler,

Interesting skim that was. Will read more thoroughly while picking up the chittlens. I didn't see anything specifically mentioned in the article about handwriting, but that is the big question when it comes to identification. How many points reflect a match? Some doc examiners would say that one dissimilarity constitutes that the authors are not a match. Then you have some that say 20 matching similarities and you've got yourself a suspect.....

I am just glad that I had over 55 on JT.... Leaving nothing to question. I have been told that many more matches were made than I have done, but I could have spent the next 2 years making matches because it all matched. So, I stopped at 55 calling it done! :)




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    09/28/09 at 04:04 PM
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I completed the exam on JT/BD I will post the completed report on photobucket this evening! :)
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    09/28/09 at 04:38 PM
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I believe the sick leave indicated most of 1945, and JT was present for the picture in July 1945. So, probably not the same person!

As far as the WWII part of your message, I believe there was a theory posted somewhere in regards to that?


NanetteB, what I was eluding to is that in the redacted page, now removed, it may imply that a suspect in Elizabeth Short murder was in the military 1945. So, not JT in that LE interview but authorities were looking into an enlisted man as a logical suspect? I love and hate that redacted page....talking about it and it's not on this site anymore!

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    09/28/09 at 04:47 PM
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They were looking into military men because Short liked them and was said to have been seen hanging out with them!
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    09/28/09 at 06:46 PM
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Thanks Profiler,

Interesting skim that was. Will read more thoroughly while picking up the chittlens. I didn't see anything specifically mentioned in the article about handwriting, but that is the big question when it comes to identification. How many points reflect a match? Some doc examiners would say that one dissimilarity constitutes that the authors are not a match. Then you have some that say 20 matching similarities and you've got yourself a suspect.....

I am just glad that I had over 55 on JT.... Leaving nothing to question. I have been told that many more matches were made than I have done, but I could have spent the next 2 years making matches because it all matched. So, I stopped at 55 calling it done! :)





Thanks for answering my question a few posts back...

Now I'll tell you something to be paranoid about...I call my kids "Chittlens" too!!.....weird huh! Anyways, had to comment on that because I have never heard anyone else use that term before when referring to their kids! :) Very cute Nanette !





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    09/28/09 at 08:51 PM
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That's too funny Tamoose, I was pretty sure I was the only one who did that! LOL Did I not answer a question for you? I might have missed it in this whole Black Dahlia hubbub!

Everyone who would like to venture to:

photobucket.com/BlackDahliaComparison

You can now find my results of the exam, with my notes!

In My Professional Opinion (IMPrO): Black Dahlia suspect is identified as Jack Tarrance..........
Jack Tarrance is the author of the Black Dahlia communications based on the evidence I have been provided.

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