NanetteB
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Quote: Originally Posted by JoAnneMB1Quote: Originally Posted by thetruth
Told her I did nt believe it and after call UCdavis med center today found it is imposable what she said dont know what is going on.
Mr. Larsen, are you saying that you called UC Davis Medical Center today and they discussed with you the details of Mrs. Tarrance's medical condition and subsequent death? I work in the medical field, and I know that what you are describing is a serious breach of the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement. Who did you speak to at UC Davis? If what you say is true, this person is opening him/herself up to jailtime and a huge fine for his/her employer.
Suggestively speaking, if JT did do this and the hospital was unaware, it may have ended up in their report that they did it themselves, so there would be no malpractice. No one would be the wiser! I think that this included with Delores' statements will be investigated by the FBI.
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bruyoc
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tamoose53
Hey everyone...
I have to say that it's sort of "awkward" being in the middle of a family dispute. Bruyoc, with all due respect, I sort of think you should not have meddeled in this family squabble. The stuff that this guy is saying is pretty serious crap. You say that he told you Dennis used to wear THE hood?? THE HOOD???...THE hood the FBI has??? That my friend is a huge revelation if you ask me! As someone on this thread already said, that was a really stupid thing to do if true. Rick Larsen is saying that Dennis or Dennis and Rick had the hood, found the hood, and then wore it around the house??! Did they find it in JT's belongings?? You see the friggin mess this will make?? WTF!!
Why does this shite happen every single time there is even the slightest break in this case?? Rick Larsen, I think you need to step back and take a big deep breath and rethink all the stuff you're touting here because what you are saying will have consequences and quite frankly could disrupt this case in a huge way. My opinion of course, but it seems like common sense thinking to me. And it makes this board look very amatuerish and not very legitimate.
Rick if you're here to destroy Dennis and/or ruin his reputation, just say so! I don't want to hear the details anymore because I think your credibility is at about a 0.00.....
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NanetteB
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It's ok Bruyoc, you couldn't have possible known that it would turn to this! I put up those url's in the new z letters thread!
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JoAnneMB1
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Quote: Originally Posted by NanetteB
Suggestively speaking, if JT did do this and the hospital was unaware, it may have ended up in their report that they did it themselves, so there would be no malpractice. No one would be the wiser! I think that this included with Delores' statements will be investigated by the FBI.
Whether it was in the hospital records or not, they cannot -- by law -- discuss this with ANYONE without the patient's consent. Let alone a son-in-law who calls today wanting info over the phone. It's not a question of malpractice -- it's a question of violation of the Health Information Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA).
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Tamoose53
Registered: 04/06/09
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Well Bruyoc I appreciate your honesty. As Ms. Barto said, how could you have known what you were about to walk into!....Anyways, in my opinion Rick larsen doesn't seem very credible. I'll just leave it at that.
Joanne I agree with you 100%. They are not supposed to discuss anything with anyone unless given permission. They would never tell some random caller personal info especially concerning the death of someone. |
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AveryJ
Registered: 05/11/09
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JoAnneMB and Tamoose are 100% correct. HIPAA is a federal law that is strictly adhered to in the medical community. My brother is a physician at UC Davis Med Ctr. Would love to find out who Larsen spoke with because that is entirely unethical. The employee would be called on the carpet and most likely fired, no matter what his or her position is with UCD. |
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Tamoose53
Registered: 04/06/09
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catseye
Registered: 04/22/09
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Did Nora have a Living Trust or a legal aggreement such as Power of Attorney or Durable Power of Attorney where if she ended up in the hospital the person or persons designated could act on her behalf? I am just asking because if so, information could be released to the person designated to act on her behalf. I find it highly unlikely that a decade later, that in just one day, after a phone call the records could be brought up and gone through and questions answered. I just don't believe Richard would be the person legally designated to handle Nora's medical affairs.
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AveryJ
Registered: 05/11/09
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I can answer that, catseye. If Nora and Jack had a trust (because married people would have a trust together due to community property laws), then the co-trustee, or successor trustee, in the event of the death or incapacity of the co-trustee, would have rights ONLY if she or he were named in the Health Care Directive (aka POA for healthcare), which is one of the trust's parts. In that case, the medical center would still not release information without a signed authorization by the co-trustee or successor trustee. Since both subjects of the trust are deceased, the rights would pass to the successor trustee(s). In no event would the hospital/medical center release information over the telephone, whether or not the inquiring party was legally authorized to receive that information.
I would be surprised if the Tarrances had a trust. If they had minor children and/or extensive assets, then a trust is the right vehicle. Surprisingly, trusts are not that common. Since Nora and Jack were married and if they had wills drawn up, the wills would be known as "mirror wills" (the beneficiaries would be the same for both, as would other dispositions contained in their wills).
Hospitals and nursing homes nowadays require their patients to complete and file a health care directive in the event the patient is unable to act for him- or herself. If Nora had such a document, then she would have named the person to act on her behalf to carry out her last wishes or medical care.
In short, medical records are not to be discussed or released without a writing by a duly authorized representative of the estate. I know for a fact that UCD requires said written authorization.
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Tamoose53
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jon55
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Good job AJ and JoAnne
I dont know near as much about this as yall do but I can say from experiance the hospital will not give you any kind of status on a patient if you call by phone.
Bruyoc was not meddling if he had of not done what he did alot of this stuff would not have come to the light.........I did think this whole episode would make the case just a tad weaker but because of the testimonials from other family members including Richard..........I do think the case is stronger today than it was last week.
Bruyoc you have played the hand that you where dealt and I for one think you did a good job of it.
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NanetteB
Registered: 08/10/09
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Jon55,
Funny that you mention stronger, I just finished a conversation with Dennis, and we considered whether or not putting up with RL was warranting our time or wasting it?
Decision reached was that everyone will hang themselves sooner or later, and from day one I told Dennis that he has done nothing but make things stronger in my mind. He keeps feeding us with info that confirms more and more that JT is Z.
The kicker for me is the one leg shorter than the other.
This is why!
It had been explained that JT was in 3 different military institutions.
I wondered out loud, who does that? I mean 3 different ones! It seemed more likely that someone would pick a branch and retire from it if they were going to invest that much time in it! I wondered several theories:
1. Did JT not make it where he wanted within these branches, say like to get over to vietnam or into war?
2. Did he want a certain amount of intelligence or experience that each one had to offer?
3. Did he get a dis-honorably discharged for misconduct and leave to another branch? (I don't know if this is possible)
I now come back to the first conclusion because with a deformity of his nature he would not be fit for war! Maybe, he just kept trying for it anyway he could! I then go back to the Denny statement while in vietnam, and how it was paradise and that JT would love it there because it was hunting season all year round! WOW
I am a little slow sometimes, but I see some things coming together here! :)
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Tamoose53
Registered: 04/06/09
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I can see that scenario playing out too Nanette but I thought Jack had been in only 2 of the Armed Forces....correct me if I'm wrong..And I do believe if he had been dishonorably discharged from ANY Armed Forces, he would not be allowed to sign up for another one. Anybody know about this?? |
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thetruth
Registered: 07/26/09
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I said T talk to UC davis about the possability of some inICU being unpluged I never said anything about Noras records or any other patient i simply asked about the ICU |
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