thetruth Registered: 07/26/09
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Reply with quote | #31 | Dennis do you really believe what yopu are saying? Remember Pope she likes to stay out of this but is eilling to get involed. Sorry about what Jack did to you, he did it to alot of people at that age. |
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bruyoc Registered: 11/09/08
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Reply with quote | #32 | thetruth, do you know who any of the other people, kids, etc. that are in the blurry pictures? Thanks __________________ bruyoc |
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dennislkaufman
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Reply with quote | #33 | Do I believe what I am saying? Are you reffering to the child molestation? If you are, that is not a belief it is a fact. I do believe at this point that you and Jack tried to set me up while Mom was in a comma, whether or not you were directly involved with her death, it is a possibility. You have turned Joy Pope against me with all your bullshit, but if she is willing to get involved bring her aboard because she was there during all of this. |
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dennislkaufman
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Reply with quote | #34 | What about treating my Mother like shit because Jack asked you too, you denying that too? You think it is funny because you over did it! Fuck You! If you don't start answering some questions I don't see any reason for you to be here.. |
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thetruth Registered: 07/26/09
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Reply with quote | #35 | You do as you will Dennis and maybe you can explain the fact Mary and I are only 5 years Apart in age and that she spent her entire 13 year in Mich I Was 19 and she 14 true too young on both sides but we have 5 children and 26 years together hows your kid
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sixtieschick Registered: 06/10/09
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Reply with quote | #36 | How is all this mudslinging on both sides helping? Isn't it better to focus on the facts and on gathering more evidence? |
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bruyoc Registered: 11/09/08
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Reply with quote | #37 | I was told by Rick, the one and only time I talked to him on the phone, that Jack had one leg shorter than the other. Since its been said on here I can reveal another part of my conversation. I didn't know Zodiac had a lumber... __________________ bruyoc |
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Tamoose53 Registered: 04/06/09
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Reply with quote | #38 | If I may....
**Dennis did authorize "thetruth" to post here. That says alot in that Dennis is not hiding this relative for fear of something he might say.
**I would like to ask Rick this...if you have read all the evidence posted on this site, what part of it is false or do you disagree with??
** There is obviously hurt feelings and bad blood here...lets not let this get us off track or lose focus as Nanette mentioned. Lets keep our eyes on this investigation and if Rick has something of substance to offer, we can use it!
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NanetteB
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Reply with quote | #39 | thetruth,
Take a look at the Updates Thread, but I'm sure you already know.
If the FBI is willing to back this excavation, then my handwriting exam must have been correct!!!!
You may want to come to the other side Luke!!!! No not really, the other side is dark and dreary, and full of bad people, but you can get my drift from the analogy. __________________ Have a positive and inspirational day! :) |
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thetruth Registered: 07/26/09
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Reply with quote | #40 | I have never said anything about handwriting as I know nothing on the science of handwriting thats your job. I do think you must have some compelling results that have been looked at by FBI I saw the news clips and know they came up here. But that is
far from conclusive evidence. Even you schools people has a defferent opinion I for one know nothing about it and will keep my opinions on it to myself. This is not personal between us |
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NanetteB
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Reply with quote | #41 | I understand that handwriting is my job, and would like to appreciate you for recognizing that! That means alot on this board!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not the only expert that agrees that the similarities in the Z communications go beyond handwriting:
This is a statement sent to me by email from a Linguistics Major and expert from a University here in California:
John Clark wrote:
There are some interesting similarities between the Zodiac letters and the writing of Jack Tarrance, specifically the two reports that Mr. Tarrance wrote as a security guard in 1984, as well as a letter Mr. Tarrance wrote in 2002.
Overall, Zodiac's public letters---and Mr. Tarrance's official and public letters show a writer trying rather hard to appear eloquent and educated, and using words, expressions, and linguistics constructions to convey that eloquence. These attempts---especially Zodiac's and Tarrances' mid-80s reports— fail, however, in their attempts and come across instead as mawkishly overwrought.
Zodiac's and Tarrances writings also share several features, which, while in and of themselves do not "prove" the Zodiac writer and Jack Tarrance to be the same writer, are, nonetheless rather noteworthy in their similarities.
Here is one such similarity: Zodiac and Mr. Tarrance both used a construction that, in my research, I have found to be quite rare: Tarrance writes: "I and the other Sgts have had several discussions" and Zodiac writes "To prove this I shall state some facts which only I + police know." Notice how Zodiac and Tarrance use that peculiar phrasing "I and" construction.
Back to me:
This arrangement of I and, is very unusual, so to have as much circumstantial evidence, handwriting evidence, and they speak the same. This is mind boggeling, and pretty much astronomical to the degree of one person having all these same identifiers!!! :)
__________________ Have a positive and inspirational day! :) |
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JoAnneMB1 Registered: 08/31/08
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Reply with quote | #42 |
Quote: Originally Posted by NanetteB This is a statement sent to me by email from a Linguistics Major and expert from a University here in California:
John Clark wrote:
Zodiac's and Tarrances writings also share several features, which, while in and of themselves do not "prove" the Zodiac writer and Jack Tarrance to be the same writer, are, nonetheless rather noteworthy in their similarities.
Here is one such similarity: Zodiac and Mr. Tarrance both used a construction that, in my research, I have found to be quite rare: Tarrance writes: "I and the other Sgts have had several discussions" and Zodiac writes "To prove this I shall state some facts which only I + police know." Notice how Zodiac and Tarrance use that peculiar phrasing "I and" construction.
I never noticed that strange phraseology before! John Clark is right -- that is a weird similarity indeed! Mr. Clark mentions "several features" that are similar. Any chance you could convince him to come onto the message board and discuss these features, Nanette? This is fascinating!
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Rocker Registered: 12/29/08
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Reply with quote | #43 | Rick/Thetruth,
You mentioned yesterday or the day before that you were going to be in contact with Denny T or Danny (?Reynolds, I believe) and JAck's ex wife Doris (sorry can't find the thread right now so I am trying to remember the names off the top of my head).
If you can contact Danny and Doris I think that would be a great thing.....it could be key in either confirming or negating the Jack is Z theory. In my case, I believe it could be a crucial link, but if you have your doubts.....it might help you come to a decision one way or the other.
As Doris and Danny were with Jack somewhere around the Zodiac time frame and they seemed to indicate to Dennis they had something they wanted to say about Jack, it might be worth the time and effort to track them down.
Also, I remember at one point that you had said that Jack said to you....."if you knew who I really was (or what I have done) you wouldn't like me"....... Did he ever elaborate on that conversation? You all said he talked about killing people....can you be more specific?
Thanks for all your time .
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NanetteB
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Reply with quote | #44 | JoAnneMB1,
I know that since I started giving him communications he has become intrigued by the case, but is a very busy person who is hard to reach sometimes. I am not sure if this is something that would interest him, getting on the MB that is, but it couldn't hurt to ask.
I have several other communications from him if you are interested in how he came to the summation, and what his thoughts were as he received and examined different communications until I find out.
He also, was given a sample of GWH's handwriting, and found his writing in comparison to Z's worlds apart as he put it. That is always comforting as you run around screaming my suspect is the one, and then have something like DP pop up. So, handwriting and linguistics have ruled GWH out altogether. :) __________________ Have a positive and inspirational day! :) |
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thetruth Registered: 07/26/09
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Reply with quote | #45 | Jack told me stories of burning a shake on the beach in s cal. He never said he killed anyonr. The story about burning a cabin aws anouther one he said he didnt know if the guy was home or not Jack got in a fight and stabed a guy he didnt die anouther time he got into it with a few black guys and ran over them noone died
At the very end of Jacks life he told me he had molistedf alot of kids boys and girls uselly under the age of 10. This is the monster I believe he was talking about years before with that statment. I had very little to do with him after that. So he was right i didnt want much to do with him after i found out. Mary is calling them today to see what they say if they say Jack confessed to them I will tell. Nanette thank you for understanding I dont want to hurt anybodys rep with false statements and you have a job to do that is how I see it And I believe you believe Jack is the z, Cool WE can have a friendly discussion and i will keep a open mind Am not here to be insalted or insalt just facts. |
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